Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Baseball Card Guy (2nd)

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User:Baseball Card Guy

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Baseball Card Guy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Bbcardguy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Opccollector (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Die Profis - Die nächste Generation (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Your Radio Enemy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Report submission by

Libro0 (talk) 04:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Evidence

The puppetmasters MOs include: Themed names- all of the names Baseball Card Guy, Bbcardguy, Opccollector, Die Profis - Die nächste Generation, Your Radio Enemy, are all theme names attempting to give the impression of knowledge or interest in the subject matter. I believe this is done to throw people off. For example Your Radio Enemy edits radio related articles but only in a manner not related to content. His edits are cosmetic and can be achieved by anyone with or without radio knowledge. For that matter he could make the same cosmetic edits to any kind of article. Die Profis gives the impression he is a German user. I was not surprised to see that his edits at the baseball card pages were to include metric units. Die Profis claims to have stumbled onto the pages however those were his first three edits. 1, 2, 3.

Red links- at the opening of the previous case all the suspected socks had the traditional red link with little to no use of the talk pages.

ANI and deletions- These links show that he is quick to make complaints and does so frequently. He also places numerous pages and images up for deletion. [1] [2] [3] [4]

Having a great deal of socks has certainly made it difficult for him to keep track of them all. Baseball Card Guy cites 3 diffs claiming to be harassment against him, however the first diff is about Die Profis not Baseball Card Guy. [5]

This edit shows Baseball Card Guy changing inches from fractions to decimals. An edit shared by Die Profis above. All of them keep the decimals despite the statement made here.

Your Radio Enemy got into a little edit spat over at New York IRT and related pages with another user. Among the reverts in the conflict was Baseball Card Guy [6] Furthermore, this discussion [7] shows the true nature of Your Radio Enemy. It did not taken him very long to irritate that user.

I had also mentioned the writing style and logic. They are prone to empty and unfounded statements concerning my demeanor and intentions. They do not confront valid arguments in the discussion forums. Their writing resembles speech which itself resembles childish drivel. He does not appear to have achieved the writing skills necessary to pass 8th or 9th grade. It is surprising to me that this is not clearly evident upon investigation of his vast literary forays into the wikipedic continuum. Then again, as I mentioned above, his edits are primarily uploads and deletions of images, unwarranted reverts, complaints to ANI, monitoring me, foot apparel manufacturing... Some examples- [8] [9]

This edit [10] plants Die Profis right in the same basket as Plate King and Bolly Nickers. Plate King has also ventured on to the Baseball card pages and the Vehicle registration plate pages. The plate pages are also littered with the same redlink/themed socks such as Plate King, Mr. License Plate, Ricksplates, etc. Furthermore the plate pages are designed as a data table/image gallery. This is the same design that Baseball Card Guy has employed at the Baseball Card Pages. Compare 1950s Topps with Vehicle registration plates of Washington, D.C..

Comments

Please refer to the following cases Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Baseball Card Guy, Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/I Hate CAPTCHAS, Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Bolly Nickers. Baseball Card Guy pretty much convicted himself in the I Hate CAPTCHAS case. He accused me of being banned user Tecmobowl. However I found it hard to believe that as he had began editing in May of 2008 that he would have knowledge of Tecmobowl who was banned in July 2007.

• More lies and insane paranoia from Libro0. The New York IRT edit [[11]] was done for your benefit. It was a trap to see if you would use it in your crazy sockpuppet attacks. It worked. Do you want me to act like an insane person and find users that made similar edits to you and call them sockpuppets? Are some of the suspects actually you trying to force me off because you don't like what I am doing to your baseball card articles? You attack attack attack and try not to be civil. If someone makes edits you don't like and someone else backs them up they must be a sockpuppet. I am sure we can find the same for you if we were crazy enough to obsess about it. You like to be the center of attention don't you. As for Tecmobowl, I looked up the history of the articles and found another problem user like you. There are several similarities, especially in the pigheaddeness. Should we look at every article that has a data table/image gallery and add the user who did that to Libro0's delusional sockpuppet list? He is abusing the system with these crazy lies and conspiracy theories. Baseball Card Guy (talk) 13:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

• Christ on a bike I am tired of this nonsense from Libro0! You tar anyone you have issues with as a sockpuppet and wikistalker. You abuse the system. You outright lie. You make connections which aren't there. I was having fun here until I crossed paths with you and your allegations and lies.

I tried to intervene between you and Baseball Card Guy you call me a sockpuppet. Just because I made a few edits to some baseball card articles and disagree with you makes me a sockpuppet? Just because I asked for some article [12] to get deleted I am a sockpuppet? I take it that RogueNinja should be added to Libro0's sockuppetry false allegations list because he voted delete as I did. How many of the notional sockpuppets here voted for deletion of that article? None. Wow that is strong evidence of a sockpuppet ring. All hail Libro0 for bringing it to light.

The small row over New York IRT was resolved. You are grasping at straws. The whole naming convention argument just shows how delusional you are in your further grasping of straws. I would hardly call properly categorizing articles "cosmetic" edits. I could argue that he is making mainly "cosmetic" edits, too.

In this farce, Libro0 continues with his tiresome passive aggressive attacks. This one is really childish - He does not appear to have achieved the writing skills necessary to pass 8th or 9th grade.

Libro0 fails to listen to the advice of others and continues with these time wasting exercises. To me, Libro0 is the problem and has engaged in troll like behavior. He needs to be properly sanctioned for it. Your Radio Enemy (talk) 14:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

You did declare that you set a trap. I did not buy it however. You clearly got your socks switched and had no way out of that than to say it was a trap. Seriously, who goes around saying they set traps for people. You already have admitted to monitoring me as well. You cannot seem to keep yourself out of trouble. All you have done is implicate yourself further. It isn't just that you guys support each other. You guys behave the same. All the socks dodge the discussion issues. Compared to everyone I have dealt with here, you stand alone in this negative behavior. Everyone else, wether I agree or disagree with them, is able to entertain a rational discussion. User:Fram and quite a few others have come by and edited at the baseball card pages and made good faith edits as well as engaging in straight forward discussion. Aside from the futile discussion at Talk:1960s Topps, none of you appear at any talk pages. However Baseball Card Guy is mercilessly resistant to allowing me to make corrections and additions. As you can see here: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47,48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55,56, 57. There is no edit war. A war requires two combatants. I have yielded to this onslaught. You(Radio) are not neutral otherwise you would call for his(BCGuy) block. Libro0 (talk) 17:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

• You fell for the trap. Heed the words of Admiral Ackbar! I have set more for you to use as your evidence. You are a bad person who is wanting their way all the time. You keep making insane lies about things and you need to stop. You are probably doing some of the sockpuppetry because it does something for your God dammed crazed mind. Stop dragging people into your crazy fantasy world of loonies. You fall for traps because they are easy. You lack the sense of Admiral Ackbar. Baseball Card Guy (talk) 17:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

• Please just ban Libro0 and Baseball Card Guy and put an end to this madness. I spend most of my time here looking after Libro0 to see if he is engaging in more slander, like you see on this page. Baseball Card Guy seems to egg him on. There is not going to be any peace until these two stop and the only way for that to happen seems to be for the two of them to get banned. I did not sign up for this. All I did was make a few edits to some baseball card articles that Libro0 didn't approve of and disagreed with him. There needs to be action and that action needs to be swift and against both Libro0 and Baseball Card Guy. Your Radio Enemy (talk) 18:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Conclusions

• Not sure about Opccollector or You Radio Enemy, so I've left those alone. Baseball Guy uploaded pics of cars or something, as did the German username'd guy. And the Bcardguy was an obvious one. Socks I've mentioned I've done indef. BCG blocked 24 hours. Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 20:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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